Ceiling speakers for surround Polk V60 or QI65 or something else

Just been looking at replacing my Wharfedale 9.0 bookshelfs surrounds for ceiling speakers ( for a new house build) behind the seating position.

After countless hours searching (with small budget) just wondering if anyone could advise either of these, or recommend something else?

Polk V60

https://www.polkaudio.com/products/v60

Q acoustics QI65

https://www.soundlab.co.nz/q-acoustics/434-q-acoustics-qi65c-ceiling-speakers-pair.html

Both very similar price

I'm also looking at outdoor speakers. The only thing I can really find so far is

https://www.soundlab.co.nz/q-acoustics/443-q-acoustics-qi65cw-outdoor-ceiling-speakers-pair.html

Any other suggestions greatly appreciated.

Cheers